tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post5406124446368679521..comments2024-03-17T12:14:30.727+04:00Comments on Well Pitched - a cricket blog: Why Not Pakistan?obaidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04686432822347334520noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-3939445258140665542008-10-24T00:56:00.000+04:002008-10-24T00:56:00.000+04:00I don't think you can compare the security situati...I don't think you can compare the security situation in India and Pakistan.India is much safer to tour.<BR/><BR/>Security issues are not just an excuse to abstain from touring Pakistan. These are legitimate concerns.<BR/><BR/>With respect to travel India touring Pakistan, BCCI has no option but to acquiesce, being in the same block.<BR/><BR/>PCB should organize international cricket in the UAE for the moment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-8057618964833584492008-09-23T23:08:00.000+04:002008-09-23T23:08:00.000+04:00QAlso Pakistan played Australia last time in 2004w...Q<BR/><BR/>Also Pakistan played Australia last time in 2004when their team was at its peak, any team on its day can give the current Aussie team a run for its money they are not no longer invincible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-25298884553435568692008-09-23T12:04:00.000+04:002008-09-23T12:04:00.000+04:00i think the problem lies with the PCB functioning....i think the problem lies with the PCB functioning.Anil Singhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03730693158313605630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-66902946616539488422008-09-23T10:49:00.000+04:002008-09-23T10:49:00.000+04:00Wasim I agree with you. There's been a lack of cri...Wasim I agree with you. There's been a lack of cricket but whenever we've played we've done alright.<BR/><BR/>Even our record against India this year in ODIs is 2-2 so I don't see what the whole fuss about Pakistan being a weak side is about.<BR/><BR/>And the reason for PAk not playing their best side has been a variety of things.. mishandling of Razzak and Yousuf, mishandling of Shoaib and Asif, injuries to a number of players etc.<BR/><BR/>U know that Shoaib, Asif, and Gul have never played a match together?<BR/><BR/>I know the PCB is to blamefor most things, the players for some others. But at the end of the day its frustrating for us.<BR/><BR/>But the point is that despite all these external issues, Pakistan has done alright as a cricket team.<BR/><BR/>Buzz u point out losing to Australia 10 times in a row. Well we're not alone in that. Every team will agree that beating Australia in Australia has been a near impossible task for over a decade now.<BR/><BR/>India is the only team who has been able to do that in a test each on their last few tours.<BR/><BR/>England hasn't, South Africa hasn't, no one has.<BR/><BR/>Australia haven't toured Pakistan for 10 years and guess what happened when they did 10 years ago? We beat them :-)<BR/><BR/>So don't say that that is a reason for Australia not touring.<BR/><BR/>As for shifting to the Middle East for home venues.. I dont think Pakistan should go for it as that would give all countries an easy way to say they dont want to tour. Pakistan first needs to work on improving its political situation and then work on kick startin cricket again.<BR/><BR/>During this time we can play India and Sri Lanka at home and try and organize tours for the rest of the year so the team doesn't sit idle.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-20507930183371691362008-09-22T17:45:00.000+04:002008-09-22T17:45:00.000+04:00Guys, thats what I say. switch to middle east for ...Guys, thats what I say. switch to middle east for rekindling Pak home cricket for time being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-13574402280512724302008-09-21T23:27:00.000+04:002008-09-21T23:27:00.000+04:00BuzzWhat goes around comes around is this statemen...Buzz<BR/><BR/>What goes around comes around is this statement true for the Indian blasts also or is just applicable to Pakistan, Pak cricket is not in a mess although certain evil eyes want that to happen, we are a cricket crazy nation cricket can never die in Pakistan we will always remain a force in the cricket world despite all the recent boycotts.<BR/>Their is no dearth of talent in Pakistan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-71739694189688997092008-09-21T22:39:00.000+04:002008-09-21T22:39:00.000+04:00Buzzz I never said you can't comment here - ure vi...Buzzz I never said you can't comment here - ure views are always welcome - wether i agree with them or not is a different thing..<BR/><BR/>I agree with u to a certain extent - i highly doubt that any of the white teams will tour Pakistan now.. But as far as the India tour is concerned.. i think thats going to go ahead as scheduled.. I dont think India will back out..<BR/><BR/>Ive said it before as well - when Pakistan is playing cricket, even the terrorists r watching ;-)Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-35185027602027534032008-09-21T20:51:00.000+04:002008-09-21T20:51:00.000+04:00i think with the deadliest attack on capital of Pa...i think with the deadliest attack on capital of Pakistan which is in the vicinity of prez and pm residence and parliament and death of chezk envoy in the sorry blasts, the international cricket is dead in pakistan with the blasts.<BR/><BR/>And i think this is the biggest loss to Pakistan.<BR/><BR/>To save its face, PCB could go and lease up Sharjah and abu Dhabi stadia and host its home series out there.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Indian tour too might be called off given that Pindi is one of the venue for Tests next year and Indians are very favorite for talibani terrorists, the security remains a big ?<BR/><BR/>Sad to see Pak cricket in mess. But then what goes is what comes back. Isnt it ? <BR/><BR/>PS : This is not a political post. So Q, i hope i wud be allowed to comment here and u wont say tht u cant get me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-19964214039265937042008-09-21T15:29:00.000+04:002008-09-21T15:29:00.000+04:00LB it is indeeed quite sad. We're helpless and fru...LB it is indeeed quite sad. We're helpless and frustrated!<BR/><BR/>With some high profile deaths i really doubt any western team touring Pakistan for a long long time.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-73535539321897091982008-09-21T15:28:00.000+04:002008-09-21T15:28:00.000+04:00I see your point Sledge.. The focus has definitely...I see your point Sledge.. The focus has definitely shifted.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-82887303564333511092008-09-21T00:04:00.000+04:002008-09-21T00:04:00.000+04:00Sad for Pakistan, sad for cricketLook how prominen...Sad for Pakistan, sad for cricket<BR/><BR/>Look how prominently this is being covered in the Aus, UK, NZ media. And note the emphasis on <B>suicide bomber</B> in the reports.<BR/><BR/>As Jrod has said in the past, bombs that go off in a Muslim country scare Westerners more than bombs that go off elsewhere.<BR/><BR/><I>The Delhi bombings were just an Indian thing</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-77052124273239433582008-09-20T22:15:00.000+04:002008-09-20T22:15:00.000+04:00Q - Pakistan/India political relations have really...Q - Pakistan/India political relations have really improved over time. Militants are not concerned with India and Indian targets. That was bigger in the 90s. I don't see anyone protesting Indian policy anymore. Even the Kashmir issue has been put on the backburner (excluding very recent events).<BR/><BR/>It's mainly western/"white" targets that militants are interested in now. That is why they want to attack places like the Marriott, rather than your average Pakistani shopping center - it gets all the attention.<BR/><BR/>However, these bastards will do anything to grab the headlines. An attack on any team, whether it's Australia or India, will make news, and that's what they want.SledgeHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118623964622205754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-38309222056359782302008-09-20T20:56:00.000+04:002008-09-20T20:56:00.000+04:00Anon, Sledge - I agree todays events were really s...Anon, Sledge - I agree todays events were really sad.. Who knows when Pakistan will be able to get out of this rut..<BR/><BR/>But again.. if India tours Pakistan in Jan then no other country should have any excuse..Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-12483381352845269162008-09-20T19:39:00.000+04:002008-09-20T19:39:00.000+04:00@anon - very true. As I wrote in a previous post, ...@anon - very true. As I wrote in a previous post, I think canceling the Champions Trophy was the correct decision (although I do have concerns about the ramifications).<BR/><BR/>Although Rawalpindi was eventually removed as a venue, this is one of the two hotels that players/media usually stay when they play in Rawalpindi (the other one being the Pearl Continental in Rawalpindi itself).<BR/><BR/>As someone from Islamabad, this is horrific. The Marriott (used to be Holiday Inn back in the 80s) is one of the most famous buildings and has been the center of activity in Islamabad.<BR/><BR/>Pakistan is in a total mess. There's no way the country should concentrate on home cricket. If we want to play, let's adopt Abu Dhabi and Sharjah as our "home" grounds for now. There is no other solution.SledgeHammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118623964622205754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-13719266546468903722008-09-20T19:17:00.000+04:002008-09-20T19:17:00.000+04:00I think the blast in Islamabad today will put all ...I think the blast in Islamabad today will put all questions like "Why not Pakistan" to rest. I don't think we will see another foreign team touring our blighted country during our lifetimes at least.<BR/>Sad...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-23847519485317836802008-09-20T17:14:00.000+04:002008-09-20T17:14:00.000+04:00SB - I believe what JRod meant was that there aren...SB - I believe what JRod meant was that there aren't many cricket boards in the world who would disagree with the BCCI... they wouldn't dare to.<BR/><BR/>Plus the BCCI may also have more convincing power than say someone like a PCB.<BR/><BR/>There are some shrewd businessmen sitting there in the BCCI...Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-20023330805318042992008-09-20T15:01:00.000+04:002008-09-20T15:01:00.000+04:00what ever the factor may be but sehwag's comment s...what ever the factor may be but sehwag's comment seems to be inappropriate when it says India is not like Pakistan, Here everything becomes routine.XYZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03935435052296762118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-82181234291591165852008-09-19T19:47:00.000+04:002008-09-19T19:47:00.000+04:00It breaks down to three things. Money. Pakistan be...<I>It breaks down to three things. <BR/><BR/>Money. <BR/><BR/>Pakistan being a muslim state. <BR/><BR/>And the BCCi.<BR/><BR/></I><BR/><BR/>UJ, pray explain the BCCI bit here? Kindly expand on the notation you made for you appear to know plenty about BCCI...Soulberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15830619858224129215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-82822705858292753492008-09-19T19:45:00.000+04:002008-09-19T19:45:00.000+04:00I would be extremely curious to have the reports o...I would be extremely curious to have the reports of security scouts in either case side by side.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what they said and why.<BR/><BR/>The so-called "powerful" asian block is proven a myth for failing to bring to book errants and preventing repetition.Soulberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15830619858224129215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-25759641789991041482008-09-19T13:14:00.000+04:002008-09-19T13:14:00.000+04:00Sorry Neno but I dont agree a single bit with ur p...Sorry Neno but I dont agree a single bit with ur points. Not true.<BR/><BR/>The only one that is somewhat true is the one about the PCB not creating any brand image...<BR/><BR/>As for support from BCCI - the suibcontinental boards have always stuck together no matter what and have supported each other through everything..<BR/><BR/>Remember when teams refused to tour Sri Lanka during 96 World Cup, India and Pakistan sent a combined team there to show the world that its a safe place to play cricket..Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-87292714543154854242008-09-19T13:12:00.000+04:002008-09-19T13:12:00.000+04:00Thanks Scorps.. yes it was a long lay-off! Kept ex...Thanks Scorps.. yes it was a long lay-off! Kept extending my vacation.<BR/><BR/>Good to be back though.<BR/><BR/>Your comments make absolute sense. I believe today's generation of Indians and Pakistanis have grown out of the tensions of the past and have learnt to live together.. however u still find the odd extremists here and there.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-34799504620400911042008-09-19T09:40:00.000+04:002008-09-19T09:40:00.000+04:00Welcome back Q... long break eh... good to see you...Welcome back Q... long break eh... good to see you back.<BR/><BR/>Interesting discussion here... and really tough!<BR/><BR/>I must say the blame is on the PCB and the political establishments. Huge miscalculations on many fronts.<BR/><BR/>On a general note, the PCB has to muscle a lot.<BR/><BR/>Ironically, The two teams, India and Pakistan, who actually face the greatest of threats while touring between, are happily playing in each other countries with no qualms.<BR/><BR/>Add with that the great relationship between, us, bloggers, perhaps puts things in perspective for the world to ponder on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-12430954585374778832008-09-19T08:09:00.000+04:002008-09-19T08:09:00.000+04:00NenoWasn't JFK assassinated? wasn't Rajiv and Indr...Neno<BR/><BR/>Wasn't JFK assassinated? wasn't Rajiv and Indra Gandhi assassinated?<BR/>and does Newzealand cricket, and West Indies cricket established a brand and are they profitable? <BR/>Asking support from BCCI? I don't know what the F''k that means both countries are in Asian block and they support each other on bilateral basis just the way western block boards support each other,which country has Z+ level security? By supporting terrorism earlier I think you mean channeling American/western Money and weapons to Afghan Mujaheddin so that they could win them the cold war.<BR/>Get your facts straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-55014906876267021102008-09-19T01:09:00.000+04:002008-09-19T01:09:00.000+04:00I cringe everytime Veeru or Bhajji say something t...I cringe everytime Veeru or Bhajji say something that is not connected to cricket.. Take that back about Bhajji.. I cringe everytime he speaks..Pontings_baldspothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12801456298967040886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-62663749130181436992008-09-18T14:39:00.000+04:002008-09-18T14:39:00.000+04:00Their could be many factors in this rod.1.) Even P...Their could be many factors in this rod.<BR/><BR/>1.) Even PM of Pakistan is not safe.<BR/>2.) No brand image of pakistan created by PCB.<BR/>3.) Asking support from BCCI.<BR/>4.) No good relation with other boards.<BR/>5.) Not able to conclude that safety can be increased to Z+.<BR/>6.) Earlier image of Pakistan for promoting Terror.<BR/><BR/>@ JROD. I don't think that your points money, muslim and bcci are related to, not coming of australia to pakistan. <BR/><BR/>And by the wayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com