tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post7494026437088995962..comments2024-03-21T21:25:28.098+04:00Comments on Well Pitched - a cricket blog: The verdict has arrived...obaidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04686432822347334520noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-52659820868821765302008-01-31T05:48:00.000+04:002008-01-31T05:48:00.000+04:00hey folks, welcome! Q, have you stopped laughing y...hey folks, welcome! Q, have you stopped laughing yet :) This is a pretty serious issue you know.<BR/><BR/>David, that transcript of the verdict is priceless... I love how the F word is thrown around here and there... and the TMK word is also explained<BR/><BR/>Regarding your comments, the ICC totally messed up by not having Harbhajan's record available to Hanson. And yes, what can poor Proctor do? He is not a judge... the whole game is moving on but the cricket administrators and rule enforcers are definitely living in the 50s<BR/><BR/>SP, I have also just read Harsha's article and I also agree with the part at the end... now I will have to write a whole blog entry about it... he has hit a raw nerve :)obaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04686432822347334520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-3468247512642078082008-01-30T17:51:00.000+04:002008-01-30T17:51:00.000+04:00i have just read harshas lated article and agree w...i have just read harshas lated article and agree with him completely...<BR/><BR/>i mean i just don't understand why such hue and cry is made over this issue by oz media...is it frustration of not getting the desired result when everything was so obvious and apparent...???<BR/><BR/>having said that i also wish that god someday will stuff some senses in bcci...they could have just waited...sitting pretty...straight pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08309030423887849171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-21976496306314730002008-01-30T15:44:00.000+04:002008-01-30T15:44:00.000+04:00I don't really want to get involved in discussions...I don't really want to get involved in discussions over the politics etc. of the situation, but there is part of Hansen's report (see <A HREF="http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2008/jan/30report.htm" REL="nofollow">here</A>) that should teach the ICC a lesson or two.<BR/><BR/>He talks (from Paragraph 30 onwards for a bit) about the standard of proof required. The Code of Conduct doesn't mention this anywhere, so instead he turned to the ICC's anti-doping policy, which says that the standard of proof required is in between the balance of probabilities and beyond reasonable doubt. But where in between these two it doesn't say.<BR/><BR/>Hansen is of the opinion that consistency in such matters is good, and so he applied this to the Harbhajan case. But where in between the two extremes do you draw the line? Hansen says that the more serious the offence, the stronger the standard of proof required. He judged that a Level 3 offence was serious, and so, since he wasn't convinced that Harbhajan had called Symonds a monkey, Harbhajan was let off.<BR/><BR/>Now, there are things I might quibble with there (eg, doping gets a two-year ban, racism gets two to four Tests - doesn't that suggest that the level of proof needed for racism is less than that for doping?), but if the ICC can stick to it, it would be a good system and at least we would all know what the rules are.<BR/><BR/>Given that cricket gets legalistic quite often, it would be very very useful if the ICC guideline documents spelled out clearly what levels of proof are required. <BR/><BR/>Poor Mike Procter - not a lawyer to begin with, perhaps not entirely clear on what reasonable doubt is, and in any event he couldn't possibly know what standard of proof he required, because the ICC has never told him or anyone else!David Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08378763233797445502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3713921718473352259.post-63441990394798055672008-01-30T14:22:00.000+04:002008-01-30T14:22:00.000+04:00Hahahah!!! Ill give my comments once im done laugh...Hahahah!!! Ill give my comments once im done laughing..hilarious post Obaid!!Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13947332468863567271noreply@blogger.com